Saint Paddy7:14 AM "That's too much and too long." These are not words overheard in the foxhole, but my perception of the Shaw deal. I could see dumping Lego to save that money for a top 6 forward. Ah well, I'm going to quit worrying about BBB's dealings.
Wow, big news over at SN. I can't believe they actually got rid of PJ and Healy. I see they also got rid of Chantal Desjardins who hosted the Habs' broadcasts. Even though not from Montreal (I don't think), she must have sounded too pro-Hab with that name. Now they can stick a true SFUer in that position instead. Doesn't matter - the intermissions of the Habs games are dreadful.
"The Montreal Canadiens have been in contact with Dale Weise's camp. There's interest to perhaps bring him back -- the Canadiens traded him to the Chicago Blackhawks before the deadline -- but it would have to be at the right price. Other teams have also called. Weise is a useful bottom-six guy and was popular in Montreal. But, again, I don't think GM Marc Bergevin goes that route unless the price is right."
I am not a reddit member so I could not commment. It was a really interesting read. Three things that stood out. 1) Got to be bilingual to be a lawyer in Quebec. Great way to keep the Anglos in line. 2) THe TPP is not a line in the sand for you. 3) You have been to South Korea, hope we get to share war stories some time. I did hundreds of tours of duty there.
If Bargain Bin is entertaining thoughts of bringing back CHip, he must be going to move a few of his 15 or so 4th liners he has accumulated. Also, seems he has asked about Brooklyn Islander 4th liner Matt Martin. As Bergy likes to say: " You can never 'ave too many fort liners".
I dance like Troy Tempest but I do move more air than DDD on the PP. Lord Bryon on the PK changes the game. Lets change the game and win instead of scrapping the ice near the slot.
picture me in a potatoe patch with my wellingtons, lego bricks in hand, mourful look on my stipid face, naot disguising I have the IQ of a Star Wars RD2D assembled.
Lars EllerVerified account @Eller_89 I want to thank the @canadiens organization and @gmolson for my time in this great city. It was a privilege to play for the Habs.
Geoff MolsonVerified account @GMolsonCHC Geoff Molson Retweeted Lars Eller Bonne chance and thank you Lars! #GHG
I predict Stinky signs with Le Habs for $9. I dont want anymore 4th line 40 grit sandpaper. We have three possible 2 nd line skill players, lets audtion FFS. Do not get eMTy anymore playtoys.
One of the lighter aspects of Mr. Obama’s visit that is being watched is whether or not the President will return to Le Moulin de Provence, a French bakery in Ottawa’s ByWard Market that Mr. Obama visited in 2009. The President purchased maple leaf-shaped shortbread cookies, which the bakery has since re-named “Obama cookies” and sells them in front of a large picture of the President’s visit.
BrianWilde @BWildeCTV 2m2 minutes ago The Habs had many discussions with the Oilers and they couldn't make something happen when the likes of Larsson was what it took..... SMH.
Well, somewhere Arrogant Fuckface is gleefully rubbing his hands together. He finally managed to get rid of a player he hated. And it's now official, Bergevin is as stupid as Houle.
Its a business deal (thanks for nothing Geoff)but seeing that fucking prick behind the bench and smirking to his bigoted pals at rds and tva is heart-breaking.
BrianWilde Retweeted Barry Wilson @BWilsonCTV 1m Pk gone. Feel like the city just lost part of its soul. How could the Habs do this ? Sad and angry. A career ending move go Bergervin
P.K., you were one of the most beloved Habs and wore the CH on your heart. Thanks for absolutely everything you did on and off the ice! Merci pour tout PK and have an awesome future career.
BrianWilde @BWildeCTV 7m7 minutes ago Weber's contract is a gigantic albatross. This is that Gomez deal that you feared. This is a dark day in Habs history.
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Marc Dumont @MarcPDumont I had my doubts about Bergevin, but this confirms it. He's verging on awful. This will set back the team for a long, long, long time.
BrianWilde Retweeted Kevin Weekes @KevinWeekes 6m6 minutes ago Just spoke to Subban "I'll be @CanadiensMTL for life.Really happy to be going to a team that wants me in @PredsNHL." @NHL @NHLNetwork
BrianWilde @BWildeCTV 11m11 minutes ago Weber's contract is a gigantic albatross. This is that Gomez deal that you feared. This is a dark day in Habs history.
Just heard that PK was a distraction and management had to address it. Can't wait to see how the team wins the Cup next year now that the problem is gone!
Jonathan Willis @JonathanWillis Montreal just acquired the age 31-40 seasons of Weber in exchange for the age 27-31 seasons from Subban. 4:07 PM - 29 Jun 2016
BrianWilde @BWildeCTV 2m2 minutes ago It is the worst deal because Weber is already deteriorating like Gomez was. Weber 10 more years at 7.9 hit. Contract expires at 41.
I don't think I've felt this bad about a trade since Roy was traded. Before that Chelios for a washed up Denis Savard. This is just bad all around. PK wasn't worth Taylor Hall? The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the tail is wagging the dog here. Therrien convinced Bergevin to make this deal, wouldn't want a supposed defensive liability like Hall. This is so fucked up.
We completed today an important transaction which I am convinced will make the Canadiens a better team. It was also one of the most difficult decisions I had to make as general manager of the Montreal Canadiens. In Shea Weber, we get a top-rated NHL defenseman with tremendous leadership, and a player who will improve our defensive group as well as our powerplay for many years to come. Shea Weber led all NHL defensemen last season with 14 powerplay goals. He is a complete rearguard with impressive size and a powerful shot. P.K. Subban is a special and very talented player. He provided the Canadiens organization with strong performances on the ice and generous commitment in the community. I wish him the best of luck with the Predators
"Subban, 27 (5/13/89), is among the most decorated defensemen in the game today. Individually, he won the 2013 Norris Trophy as the NHL’s top defenseman, was a finalist for the award in 2015, is a two-time First-Team NHL All-Star (2013 and 2015) and a 2011 All-Rookie Team selection. He has helped teams win a gold medal at the 2014 Winter Olympics and a pair of World Junior Championships (2008 and 2009). Over the past four seasons – dating back to 2012-13 – the 6-foot, 210-pound blueliner has amassed 203 points (42g-160a) in 274 regular-season games, third most among all NHL defensemen. He has surpassed the 50-point mark in each of the past three seasons, highlighted by a career-high 60 points (15g-45a) in 2014-15. He has advanced past the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs in each of his last two appearances in the postseason, ranking fourth among NHL blueliners in points (5g-9a-14pts) in 2014, helping Montreal reach the Eastern Conference Final.
A native of Toronto, Subban started his professional career in 2009-10, being named to the AHL All-Rookie Team and an AHL First-Team All-Star after leading all league blueliners in goals (18) and ranking third in points. The 43rd overall selection in the 2007 NHL Draft (second round) played four seasons with the OHL’s Belleville Bulls from 2005-09, posting 190 points (42g-148a) in 234 games and being named a 2009 First-Team OHL All-Star."
"I liked Subban, but the team sucked last year like it’s never sucked before. They’ve been a small bunch, they ranked middle of the pack in scoring, the power play was pathetic, and if Bergevin had basically sat pat I would’ve been more pissed than this."
That falls on the management - not on PK, he was their leading scorer up till he got injured.
BBB is completely full of shit. To say this move was a 'hockey move' and nothing to do with PK's personality on and/or off the ice is complete and utter bullshit and EVERYBODY can see right through it.
This is like lucking out and meeting a great gal, falling head over heels for her, only to lose her because of some short-sightedness. She'll never be out of your mind no matter how pretty and fun things might be or get to be. Might've been there. Read into it what you like.
Also, how FHFucking weird is it that on our 100000th view that PFK heads west.
Bruce Arthur @bruce_arthur 1h1 hour ago If Subban for Weber was a hockey decision, as Marc Bergevin is trying to say, his hockey judgement is in serious question
First, I'd just like to say that this "hockey trade" was made for two reasons. 1. Michel Therrien. 2. To protect Max Pacioretty, Mr. Corporate, from being out played on the ice and out shone in the dressing room.
Secondly, I agree with moe, we have to move on. PK is gone but will not be forgotten. I predict that the Montreal Canadiens will regret this move down the road. Chris Chelios, Eric Desjardins, Mathieu Schneider, Ryan McDonagh and now PK Subban. Anybody like those guys?
Last, the Montreal Canadiens have become a staid, conservative organization who don't want any large personalities on their team. Let's all play eMTy's "system" and enjoy the "process". We can't have any excitement on the ice now can we? Can you say Lottery team?
This is all Mr Molsens fault. He should have fired both clowns at the end of the season. But we go to war with the army we have. BBQ is not chopped liver. If he is good in the room we win the trade right, cause the cup is won in the room not on the ice.
Fuck me...look back to the last thread and you'll see what I said I feared would happen. Much like the vote for Brexit I can't really belive it has happened. Marc Bergevin is a weasel cocksucker and a liar. Lie to me once...shame on you. Lie to me again ...shame on me - is what they say - but I knew it was going to happen. I have no opinion on Shea Webber because the Montreal Canadiens are now dead to me. Fuck you Marc Bergevin - you are a cunt. I feel sick. This is not your team - this is our team - all you have done is to set it back another decade. Fuck you.
I'm not calm yet, but you're either going to quit the team or learn to move on. And no matter what, i can't quit the team. I would say the window to win a cup with the core we have isn't closed, but it's shutting a lot quicker today than it was yesterday. I think Shweb? SFW? still has a good 3 years in him to help the team towards that goal. Now do I think BBB has the hockey mind to get the other players needed to make that happen? After today, do you need to even ask? But we still got Carey's healthy knee. So no worries.
I've been reading comments on various Twitter accounts, this one caught my eye (among many): The Canadiens run their star athlete out of town and keep a coach basically no on likes. Except Bergevin. Former player Anthony Stewart couldn't believe how PK was treated during his time there. Although the majority of fans adored him, Habs management constantly tried to beat him down. They benched him repeatedly, bridged him, low balled him and finally traded him. Way to go Marc and Mike, you win. You folks in Nashville enjoy him, he's a special player.
Richard Labbé @Richardlabbe 5h5 hours ago #CH Je viens de parler à B.Gallagher, qui est sous le choc. "J'ai besoin d'un peu de temps pour penser à tout ça..."
On TSN and MT on post season presser, MT said he tried to protect Galchenyuk from top players like Weber. Hmmm...we know where BBB gets his advice from.
The only thing (ONLY) thing that gets me through this is knowing that PK is going to thrive down in Nashville. No media trying to destroy him, no management trying to destroy him. He'll be a huge presence in a market that is smaller, but apparently has rabid fans (been reading about them for years now). And let's be real, the South is a great market for PK to finally become the face of the franchise and really sell hockey to a whole new generation. They're going to love him down there. So good for PK.
The deeper depression is knowing that Molson had to sign off on this, so this disease goes straight to the top. Even if Molson was iffy about MB/MT he wouldn't have allowed him to make such a big move with a franchise player. It also indicates that the organization as a whole learned nothing from the Roy trade (or McDonnaugh trade). Politics is more important than winning, and it's hard to be a 'fan' of that.
I don't know, I hate that in sports people always say you have to be loyal to be a 'real' fan. Sorry, at this point if your a still a "Habs fan" your really just a fan of MT's ego and MB's incompetence. They're a business and they've already gotten decades of business from me out of loyalty. It's about time they start actually trying to make a good product to keep me. Not even just winning, but at least TRYING to win.
Oh, and Carrey is definitely gone when his contract is up now. And what UFA thinks of signing here now?
Preds already have PK's jersey ready to go (don't look if you don't want to feel even more depressed). https://twitter.com/PredsProShop/status/748250111004774400
There was no complelling hockey reason to make this trade. TFS does not need the best defensive defence man. I fear we have got Plyon two, a big man who moves slow. A great trap guy. I think PFK just wore out his welcome with Mr Molson. MT and BB have been plotting this since he signed the $9 mill contract. I bet PFK leads Nashville in scoring next year with 80 to 100 pts. I bet Lego goes over twenty goals and fifty points. I bet DDD get PP and zero points. I dont think this trade is the worst, maybe number 4 or 5. It is possible that in the win now equation Weber beats PFK. The eight years after that total loss.
I posted my last comments at about 1.30 am UK time. I tried going to sleep after that but couldn't get it out of my head. I have now literally lost a night's sleep over this. I am so angry with the Habs management I don't know what to do. I watched Bergevin's presser this morning and the guy is unbelievable. He called Webber a "diamond in the rough" - He's fucking 31 years old - he's well past being "in the rough" For the money he gets he better be able to sit alongside the crown jewels FFS. He called hima stud who will love the eastern division because it's a piece of cake compared to the west. Not past his prime - lots of years left...I would love to hear Nashville's presser. How much you bet he says something along the lines of "I decided I wpoiuld take a chance and I gave Bergy a call. I said how 'bout this - PK for Webber - Fuck me - he said yes. He didn't ask me for anythinhg else either. No draft picks, no 4th liners - I couldn't believe my luck - Hey - if you get a chance to get an elite defenseman just entering his prime and all you have to do is give up one of you veterans whose best years are behind him - you make that deal mutherfucker!!"
After sleeping on it, I can see where Bergevin is coming from. Last season many of us complained that the Habs were one of the easiest teams in the league to play against, as soft as room temperature butter. I'm not blaming PK for that, that's not his game to run people. Weber and Shaw have changed that and I don't think Bergevin is done yet. They say time heals all wounds and PK's departure will eventually heal, I think but that is way, way down the road. Bergevin (and Geoff Molson) has taken a huge gamble here and he better be right or they are both going to be hung in effigy. I hope during the season opener Shea Weber is not booed in the introductions, but please feel free to unload on eMTy.
Finally, I look forward to Moey posting more often. I like her short, succinct comments during games such as: "Oh poo".
I'm off to Fredericton to play the Mactaquac provincial golf course, I'm breaking 90 today if it kills me!
Thanks the M! I'm glad somebody has an appreciation of my insightful in-depth game analysis. Good luck with your golf and for the love of God stay away from foxholes!
Good luck to the M. I'm still trying to break 100, but only get out 6-8 times per year.
I actually had a nightmare about this last night and awoke with a brief hope that the whole thing was a dream, but I quickly realized it wasn't the case. How ironic that PK needs to escape to the south to escape the bigotry and racism.
I have the same concern as the M. I hope the fans don't take it out on Web on opening night - save that shit for the foxholers.
Still in mild shock but no longer in denial that this was nothing but a hockey decision, as potentially fearfully a failed decision. It weirds me out that the Montreal canadiens couldn't see beyond just a hockey player and recognize the full value of PFK. We are going to miss him but life as a Habs fan goes on. I did ponder though if a Patrick Roy, at the helm of the Habs, would've made this move. Heh, of course not because MT2 would never have been hired in the first place. My other concern is Goeff Molson's managerial CHops. So far, meh. Also, another great Timmins' pick goes away. Sad but true.
So, time to move on. Time to figure out a simpler blog header with less devotion to my fave Habs. Great to see the passion of all the FHFers.
Too bad this organization can't appreciate a once-in-a-generation talent and fan fave when they have it. PK will be terribly missed. Weber will give us his best but it's hard to imagine him and Markov - both slow-footed by today's standards - pairing up that well. So Petry or Beaulieu on the top pairing? Perhaps.
After reading Wilde's column, where he tells of an elephant in the room, I recall the curious "dangling" comment from Lafleur a few weeks back and I wonder if maybe some players/mgmt on the team have "small hands" and can't handle their own shortcomings.
So the Predators GM (Anna Gainey I assume), called the Canadiens GM (David Cameron, apparently) to trade their team captain, Stephen Harper, to the Candiens for our rising star, Justin Trudeau?
Where the Subban trade becomes insane is in the fact that, in a league governed by a hard salary cap, Weber has one of the largest contracts in the sport. He is four years into a 14-year, US$110-million contract that will carry a charge against the salary cap of almost $8-million for each of the next 10 seasons. TEN SEASONS. (Sorry for the yelling.) At which point Weber, who last year was the 50th-best defenceman in the NHL in terms of even-strength point production at age 30, will be 40 years old. Subban, meanwhile, is four years younger, and is owed $9-million on the cap for the next six seasons. Nashville will stop owing him big money when he is 32, or eight years younger than Weber at the point at which Montreal will stop paying him like an elite defenceman. Sports teams often make wild long-term deals with total awareness that it will be a terrible contract in the later years, in the understanding that the future pain is worth the present value of acquiring the player. The Predators chose that with Weber — forced into it by a Flyers’ offer sheet to Weber when he was a restricted free agent — then sloughed off the anchor years of the deal on the Canadiens in exchange for a new defenceman in his prime. Put another way, Montreal gave up key productive years of Subban in exchange for the penalty years of the Weber contract. So, there’s that.
What Scott does not take into account is the cap floor. Pronger anyone? So I expect Weber, Spidey, BBQ, PKN (PK not) will end his carreer surrounded by hookers and blwo in Vegas.
Weber acknowledged Subban’s popularity and said: “I’m not P.K. Subban. But I have a strong work ethic and a good attitude and I’m coming to Montreal to help the team win.”
One of the worst aspects of this trade is there is no way to take Habs mgmt seriously. The imacculate trade, never even talked about it, never thought about it, it just happened. What I believe really happened is PFK was shopped hard, and with the deadline approaching, grabbed the floating turd. Sicne Taylor Hall was given away for a bag of pucks, WTF could we not have made a deal with EDM? This does indicatee that perhaps we did overvalue PFK or Chirelli also has a small penis.
I have had some time to reflect. I did not sleep last night because of how angered I was. I saw this coming a long time ago and now I am going to wake up on Canada Day without PK being on the Habs roster - because he was bigger than Marc Bergevin and Michel Therrien. In his presser, there was not one mention of PK being an elite D man - and no matter what you think about his flashy behaviour, he was amongst the league elite. Not being selected to play in the September circle jerk does not mean he wasnt a top quality D man. But he was the best asset the habs have had in a very long time (besides TFS) and he was treated horribly. Bergevin was dismissive of any suggestion that Webber was past his prime. "Fuck you - I'm marc Bergevin - I know everything - you know shit" was what he said to the reporter who dared to ask the question. (I paraphrase...) But the presser was a repeat of the end of year presser and it will be the same all season long. The press can ask what they want - Marc knows best and fuck you for asking me that question you asshole!. I don't know if Webber is slow, fast, fat or 6'8 - but he is a Hab now and he's getting more money than anyone on the team so he better earn it. He's a stud...a diamond in the rough (pretty sure those two are contradictory but I should fuck off I'm not Marc Bergevin - so what do I know).
The Habs are not dead to me, as much as I did say those exact words last night. They will never be dead to me - but a big part of me did die last night. The part that really really cares and really believes that they can win the Stanley Cup again. That died. Marc Bergevin killed it. Swarmy prick alluded to another deal he has cooking - so look for him to trade Galchenyuk, Beaulieu and DLR for a power forward and 2 - 2nd round draft picks. Just wait...
The M - good luck on that golf game. Keep at 'er and you'll break 90 in no time.
Merci PK - like I said - once a Hab, always a Hab!!
Dont worry, its a wwll known fact that Weber can say this with authority. My only doubt about Dumb and Dumber is will they give DDD enough ice time this year.
Marinaro is trying to sell himself as an 'insider' to Habs players past and present and that he's the guy they go running to to bear their souls and inner secrets.
Awesome day. Absolutely awesome. Shea Webber is the stud Dman we need. Feared shot, defense first. Quiet guy, natural leader. Exactly what this team needed. I wasn't a big fan of DGMB until now. But wow, to pull the trigger on this took some big balls. We are absolutely a better team now. It's a new dawn! Woot Woot!! Go Habs
Stayed up late and read all the reactions from all over the league on the internets last night. Everyone, including Nashville and its fans, thinks Montreal got fleeced. On top of that, no one can figure out why MB even made this move (EDM got fleeced, but at least they moved an extra part and filled a need). Hockey fans from all teams, including Toronto, Boston and Ottawa, have been flooding Hab chat boards to offer condolences. So it's not just us over-sensitive Hab fans reacting to this nonsense.
Besides the players themselves, what does this team potential UFAs? Why on Earth would they sign in Montreal now? Knowing that the coach is an egomaniac douche with no skills, yet an untouchable god. Either play his terrible 90s hockey or be scapegoated and thrown away. Why play in Montreal where skill is demonized and favourites are given rewards based on language ability rather than results? This isn't just about this trade, as terrible as it is, it's about sending a message to all players, present and potential. Therrien is in charge, he is infallible and he is god. Price is probably already thinking of where to sign in 2 years. Why would he bother staying here now? The only guy on the team probably happy with the trade is Patches. No one to upstage him now by actually showing up each game and trying. But also no one to take the heat when he screws up late in the game.
Just a few days ago I really believed, even with MT, they were just one top-6 signing away from being a legit contender in the whole NHL. Now the team is much weaker, I have no hope that scoring will be addressed, and the GM and owner have come out to be even dumber and more self-centered than the coach.
Loyalty is just another name for 'sucker'. I'm not going to feed MT and MB's vanity.
Now he says he knew in April PK was getting traded because GM called him to find out about PK. Wow, Marinaro must really revered in the 'hockey world' so much so that they look to him for his 'insight'.
I think PK's comments in Vegas that team needs to do a better job from the top of the organization on down sealed his fate. They didn't like that he pointed fingers at them and included them for also being responsible of their epic collapse and not making the team better during the season. Which was entirely true but "Fuck you - I'm marc Bergevin, PK - I know everything - you know shit and never point the finger at me or my foxhole roomie who used to trash you at every opportunity on AC before I hired him"
Mais ce qui saute aux yeux, depuis le début, c’est que dans le sport professionnel le plus conservateur, on ne l’a jamais aimé. Très précisément parce qu’il est « spécial ».
Le hockey n’est pas seulement le plus conservateur des sports professionnels en Amérique du Nord. C’est aussi… le plus blanc.
Pierre LeBrunVerified account @Real_ESPNLeBrun Interest sky high in Milan Lucic. Told that Montreal among the many teams showing interest. Edm, Van, Dallas, etc. No shortage of interest
Wow, so Lucic a better fit than PK? The guy who mimed raising the Cup, stood up in the penalty box, turned to face the crowd and made masturbation motions to the fans at the Bell and to the millions watching on TV including kids. Well, maybe he's 'good in the room' eh?
Hey Guys and Gals! I'm back from trying to conquer Mactaquac...and I failed in my mission to break 90. First, let me explain: this course is 600 yds longer than my home course with absolutely HUGE greens. They hadn't been mowed and were soft from last night's rain and really hard to figure out the speed of any putt. Anyway, I'm not to bent out of shape about my 95 on a course I'm unfamiliar with. I shot an 81 last Friday at my course and hit in the mid 80's semi-regularly.
I'm curious as to what Marinaro said about the PK trade. Did he slight someone or was he just too big a personality for BBB and AF to deal with? Apparently David Poile and LaViolette (aka Eddie Munster) can't wait for him to get there.
Anyway, Welcome Shea Weber! I hope you take the Jackal and the Rat's heads off early!!
Oh! If my memory is correct I seem to remember the Shaved Ape being a pretty dominant defenceman from 30-36 years of age. Hopefully Weber can repeat that. And, I'll bet the first guy who tries to run Price will pay a price, no pun intended.
Thanks for the heads up the M.
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Saint Paddy7:14 AM
"That's too much and too long." These are not words overheard in the foxhole, but my perception of the Shaw deal. I could see dumping Lego to save that money for a top 6 forward. Ah well, I'm going to quit worrying about BBB's dealings.
Wow, big news over at SN. I can't believe they actually got rid of PJ and Healy. I see they also got rid of Chantal Desjardins who hosted the Habs' broadcasts. Even though not from Montreal (I don't think), she must have sounded too pro-Hab with that name. Now they can stick a true SFUer in that position instead. Doesn't matter - the intermissions of the Habs games are dreadful.
I heard Chantal is going to ESPN.
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Congrats Moman, I can do that 400 comments in a day:)
ReplyDeleteGlad to see PJ an Heels shown the door, two of the worst talking heads ever
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One to many smurfs already and 3 more with higher upside
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Deletemoore is firmly entrenched in the SFUnited club.
Deemented COX also chopped yeahg
DeletePhoniex took Dadsucks 9.5 mill contract just to hit the cap floor, why did BBB not trade DDD to them? and keep Lego???????
ReplyDeleteBecause DDD is MT's chou-chou.
DeleteTrue Blood (Bitten) is half pure wool, and a big Habs fans.
ReplyDeleteLeBrun:
ReplyDelete"The Montreal Canadiens have been in contact with Dale Weise's camp. There's interest to perhaps bring him back -- the Canadiens traded him to the Chicago Blackhawks before the deadline -- but it would have to be at the right price. Other teams have also called. Weise is a useful bottom-six guy and was popular in Montreal. But, again, I don't think GM Marc Bergevin goes that route unless the price is right."
Benning got a $50K fine.
ReplyDeletethats bullshit, stupid parking ticket
Deletehello! 3 points:
ReplyDelete1. Rogie Vachon and I have the same birthday (September 8th). I am especially proud for him!
2. Kinda late, but I am sure moe will appreciate I have spent today doing a Reddit AMA. https://redd.it/4q9b6o
3. I miss CHantal Desjardins already. I do not miss PJ already.
That is all.
1. I share Cournoyer's Nov. 22nd
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I am not a reddit member so I could not commment. It was a really interesting read. Three things that stood out. 1) Got to be bilingual to be a lawyer in Quebec. Great way to keep the Anglos in line. 2) THe TPP is not a line in the sand for you. 3) You have been to South Korea, hope we get to share war stories some time. I did hundreds of tours of duty there.
Deleteps I just checked, all-time pageviews sitting at 999,867
ReplyDeletei could cover that in a half an hour but it would be wrong somehow
DeleteIf Bargain Bin is entertaining thoughts of bringing back CHip, he must be going to move a few of his 15 or so 4th liners he has accumulated. Also, seems he has asked about Brooklyn Islander 4th liner Matt Martin. As Bergy likes to say: " You can never 'ave too many fort liners".
ReplyDeleteI like Chip, he is a great Chip on the board, but I agree, we got so many similare pcs we gotta decide which player on the bubble we like best.,
DeleteFlynn, Mitchell and any others I would sacrifice for CHip cause he has ELAN
DeleteI dance like Troy Tempest but I do move more air than DDD on the PP. Lord Bryon on the PK changes the game. Lets change the game and win instead of scrapping the ice near the slot.
ReplyDeleteI am sorry DDD but I have had some significant love losses this year already, and your the dog I am going to kick,.
ReplyDeletepicture me in a potatoe patch with my wellingtons, lego bricks in hand, mourful look on my stipid face, naot disguising I have the IQ of a Star Wars RD2D assembled.
DeleteNow BBB is showing interest in David Perron.
ReplyDeleteGood times, Lego, good times.
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I want to thank the @canadiens organization and @gmolson for my time in this great city. It was a privilege to play for the Habs.
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Bonne chance and thank you Lars! #GHG
Never burn your bridges but he could have mentioned that eMTy sucked
DeleteHis parents likely taught him that if you don't have anything good to say...
DeleteI predict Stinky signs with Le Habs for $9. I dont want anymore 4th line 40 grit sandpaper. We have three possible 2 nd line skill players, lets audtion FFS. Do not get eMTy anymore playtoys.
ReplyDeleteAccording to the Globe and Mail CotU has the best chance of signing the Stamkos.
ReplyDeleteMust be something in the air.
Go Habs
Its called Hogtown for a reason.
DeleteOne of the lighter aspects of Mr. Obama’s visit that is being watched is whether or not the President will return to Le Moulin de Provence, a French bakery in Ottawa’s ByWard Market that Mr. Obama visited in 2009. The President purchased maple leaf-shaped shortbread cookies, which the bakery has since re-named “Obama cookies” and sells them in front of a large picture of the President’s visit.
ReplyDeleteOn my way into work yesterday early AM, I saw our Prime Minister and the Mexican President jogging near Sussex. Only in Canada ...
DeleteLeaf use the mayor to 'lure' Stamkos. Is this the new 'strategy' with NHL teams?
ReplyDeleteTaylor Hall to the Devils?
ReplyDeleteFor whom?
DeleteAdam Larsson.
DeleteThe annoying, grating PA announcer at the ACC, Andy Frost has been silenced, gone, axed. I hated the sound of his voice.
ReplyDeleteIf leaf want to use their mayor, the Habs could use Justin Trudeau aka Habs fan.
ReplyDeleteRumour has it that the ml$e had the Canadian Tire CEO in on their talk with Stamkos. Truly sickening behaviour if true.
DeleteI don't think Stamkos would accept Canadian Tire money as payment though.
DeleteOh wait...they have CT money on 'atm' type cards.
DeleteHabsLaughs @HabsLaughs 4m
ReplyDeleteFor his next trick, Chiarelli will trade Connor McDavid for Dan Girardi!
HabsLaughs @HabsLaughs 12m12 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteSTART THE CAR!!! START THE CAAAAAAARRR!!!!"-Ray Shero
HabsLaughs @HabsLaughs 19m19 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteCould the Oilers have picked a worse team to nab a D from than Jersey?...I mean...other than themselves?
I'm in stiCHes, can't stop laughing!
ReplyDeleteBrianWilde @BWildeCTV 2m2 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteWell, it appears Bergevin was wrong. The NHL does make PlayStation trades. #Hall #Oilers
BrianWilde @BWildeCTV 2m2 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteThe Habs had many discussions with the Oilers and they couldn't make something happen when the likes of Larsson was what it took..... SMH.
1,000,022!
ReplyDeleteThanks to all FHFers!!!
You made it all possible, moeman, congratulations!
DeleteAlso thanks to HF29.
DeleteFUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF FUCK OFF
ReplyDeleteNick Kypreos @RealKyper 3m
Talk of @Canadiens moving PK as early as today. Stay tuned. @Sportsnet.
Traded for Shea Weber????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????
YOU ARE FUCKING DEAD TO ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ReplyDeletePFK IS FUCKING BETTER THANK SHEA WEBER.
Pierre LeBrun @Real_ESPNLeBrun 43s43 seconds ago
ReplyDeleteConfirming the PK Subban blockbuster: traded to Nashville for Shea Weber.
Steven Stamkos is staying in TB.
ReplyDeleteOh Oh
DeleteFuckhead gave away their franchise player, I hope TFS refuses to re-sign.
ReplyDeleteOh. My. God.
ReplyDeleteI just spoke to Melnick and I told him my hear is broken and this team is DEAD TO ME UNTIL THIS MANAGEMENT IS GONE AND THEY ARE HISTORY.
ReplyDeleteWell, somewhere Arrogant Fuckface is gleefully rubbing his hands together. He finally managed to get rid of a player he hated. And it's now official, Bergevin is as stupid as Houle.
ReplyDeleteSickening.
DeleteIts a business deal (thanks for nothing Geoff)but seeing that fucking prick behind the bench and smirking to his bigoted pals at rds and tva is heart-breaking.
Wow. Simply, wow.
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ReplyDeleteBarry Wilson @BWilsonCTV 1m
Pk gone. Feel like the city just lost part of its soul. How could the Habs do this ? Sad and angry. A career ending move go Bergervin
P.K., you were one of the most beloved Habs and wore the CH on your heart. Thanks for absolutely everything you did on and off the ice! Merci pour tout PK and have an awesome future career.
ReplyDeleteBrianWilde @BWildeCTV 7m7 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteWeber's contract is a gigantic albatross. This is that Gomez deal that you feared. This is a dark day in Habs history.
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I had my doubts about Bergevin, but this confirms it. He's verging on awful.
This will set back the team for a long, long, long time.
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ReplyDeleteKevin Weekes @KevinWeekes 6m6 minutes ago
Just spoke to Subban "I'll be @CanadiensMTL for life.Really happy to be going to a team that wants me in @PredsNHL." @NHL @NHLNetwork
I'm sick to my stomaCH :(
ReplyDeleteMe too, I can't stand this, I just can't.
DeleteHow the fuck could Molson sign off on this?!?!
ReplyDeleteBrianWilde @BWildeCTV 11m11 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteWeber's contract is a gigantic albatross. This is that Gomez deal that you feared. This is a dark day in Habs history.
Alright !
ReplyDeleteHis Flashyness for a real Dman
Woot Woot!
Go Habs
I sincerely hope you are just being sarcastic.
DeleteNope
DeleteI have never been a fan of His Flashyness.
Glad to see him gone.
Go Habs!
FUCK YOU GEOFF MOLSON, YOU FUCKING PRICK!
ReplyDeleteMaybe I could have understood PK for Hall (barely) but Weber? Older, more expensive and 10 years left? UGH.
ReplyDeleteExplains why that fuckhead was outraged with Benning and complained to the league.
ReplyDeleteJust heard that PK was a distraction and management had to address it. Can't wait to see how the team wins the Cup next year now that the problem is gone!
ReplyDeleteLooks like the blog header will need a refresh.
ReplyDeleteIf anything it shows DGMB has the balls to flash.
ReplyDeleteWelcome to the Montreal Canadiens Shea Weber. Please put MT2 in his place upon arrival.
NO players can trust anything Bergevin says or his empty promises (unless it's the foxhole) , he will be harder to overcome than the Quebec tax.
ReplyDeleteFucking SFU is probably loving this.
ReplyDeleteThe Montreal Canadiens are now the Leaf.
About $2M savings on the cap, PFK could have sold that many jerseys and other shit.
ReplyDeletePFK conference call @5:30.
ReplyDeleteSOMEBODY GO EGG BERGEVIN'S HOUSE!!!!! WHAT A FUCKING MORON!! WORSE THAN HOULE!!!!
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DeleteConor McKenna @mckennaconor 1h1 hour ago
Marc Bergevin destined to go down in history with Rejean Houle in Habs GM annals.
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ReplyDeleteBeen thinking long and hard..... Considering Weber's contact ends at 41 I'm ready to say it ...
Worst trade in Habs history.
Poile in a statement on Subban: “Superstar defensemen of his caliber are a rare commodity, and we are thrilled to add him to the organiztn.”
ReplyDeleteJonathan Willis @JonathanWillis
ReplyDeleteMontreal just acquired the age 31-40 seasons of Weber in exchange for the age 27-31 seasons from Subban.
4:07 PM - 29 Jun 2016
Wouldn't if be something if PFK replaced Weber as captain. I would love to see that.
ReplyDeleteBrianWilde @BWildeCTV 2m2 minutes ago
ReplyDeleteIt is the worst deal because Weber is already deteriorating like Gomez was. Weber 10 more years at 7.9 hit. Contract expires at 41.
Spector's Hockey @SpectorsHockey 5m5 minutes ago
Delete@BWildeCTV Don't forget the cap recapture penalty if he retires before then.
I've been busy for the last hour or so. What'd I miss?
ReplyDeleteI don't think I've felt this bad about a trade since Roy was traded. Before that Chelios for a washed up Denis Savard. This is just bad all around. PK wasn't worth Taylor Hall? The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced the tail is wagging the dog here. Therrien convinced Bergevin to make this deal, wouldn't want a supposed defensive liability like Hall. This is so fucked up.
ReplyDeleteWe completed today an important transaction which I am convinced will make the Canadiens a better team. It was also one of the most difficult decisions I had to make as general manager of the Montreal Canadiens. In Shea Weber, we get a top-rated NHL defenseman with tremendous leadership, and a player who will improve our defensive group as well as our powerplay for many years to come. Shea Weber led all NHL defensemen last season with 14 powerplay goals. He is a complete rearguard with impressive size and a powerful shot. P.K. Subban is a special and very talented player. He provided the Canadiens organization with strong performances on the ice and generous commitment in the community. I wish him the best of luck with the Predators
ReplyDeleteGO FUCK YOURSELF
Going forward, I will PVR Preds games when available and I will cheer PFK all the way.
ReplyDeleteSorry fellow FHFers, till this management is gone, I will not root for this team.
MTL at NSH Tue, 3 Jan 2017
DeleteNSH at MTL Thu, 2 Mar 2017
PK was a 'leader' on the ice, where it counts most.
ReplyDelete"Subban, 27 (5/13/89), is among the most decorated defensemen in the game today. Individually, he won the 2013 Norris Trophy as the NHL’s top defenseman, was a finalist for the award in 2015, is a two-time First-Team NHL All-Star (2013 and 2015) and a 2011 All-Rookie Team selection. He has helped teams win a gold medal at the 2014 Winter Olympics and a pair of World Junior Championships (2008 and 2009). Over the past four seasons – dating back to 2012-13 – the 6-foot, 210-pound blueliner has amassed 203 points (42g-160a) in 274 regular-season games, third most among all NHL defensemen. He has surpassed the 50-point mark in each of the past three seasons, highlighted by a career-high 60 points (15g-45a) in 2014-15. He has advanced past the first round of the Stanley Cup Playoffs in each of his last two appearances in the postseason, ranking fourth among NHL blueliners in points (5g-9a-14pts) in 2014, helping Montreal reach the Eastern Conference Final.
ReplyDeleteA native of Toronto, Subban started his professional career in 2009-10, being named to the AHL All-Rookie Team and an AHL First-Team All-Star after leading all league blueliners in goals (18) and ranking third in points. The 43rd overall selection in the 2007 NHL Draft (second round) played four seasons with the OHL’s Belleville Bulls from 2005-09, posting 190 points (42g-148a) in 234 games and being named a 2009 First-Team OHL All-Star."
I have nothing to say and Arrogant Fuckface will make no more appearances. #undeserving
ReplyDeleteOK I will say this. The only positive out of this is PK will now get more respect from the media, fans and hockey world outside of MTL.
ReplyDeleteIt is a dark fucking day, not unlike the day Roy walked off the ice for the final time.
"I am a GM but some day I want to be a fan so I can have fun watching Subban. He's exciting. - Poile"
ReplyDeleteI wish I had his full sound bite, he said PK is exciting, tells his ops guys all the time, did you see that?, he said he would pay to see him.
Some on TSN also say what PK has accomplished while Weber had solid D working around him.
Hey juce! I just heard you on tsn sportscenter. Good rip on the shameful Habs.
ReplyDeleteI gotta go out for a bit but I'm not done yet kiddies.
Thanks the M. I was shaking and almost in tears when I finally spoke.
DeleteEntire rds crew is ecstatic.
ReplyDeleteNothing against Weber's skill and leadership qualities but I hope he realizes who he is replacing. This isn't fucking Nashville.
jj daigneault's job just got really easy.
ReplyDeleteI never want to cross paths with MT2, ever.
ReplyDeleteI hope I'm with you
DeleteI'll gladly take him with one arm tied behind my back.
DeleteCraig Button nailed it. Poile robbed Bergevin. Weber on the downhill slide, PK a dynamic force to come. The Habs are fucked.
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ReplyDeleteStu Cowan @StuCowan1 1h1 hour ago
The #Habs are now officially the new #Leafs.
Just spoke to my son, he says he will buy a Preds PK jersey and wear it to the Habs games.
ReplyDeleteI'm okay with it.
ReplyDeleteSubban: "I'm just happy to be in a situation where I can excel and feel good about myself coming to the rink every day." #Preds
ReplyDeleteWhatever is best for the team, read Dennis Kane's blog, I'm with him.
ReplyDelete"I liked Subban, but the team sucked last year like it’s never sucked before. They’ve been a small bunch, they ranked middle of the pack in scoring, the power play was pathetic, and if Bergevin had basically sat pat I would’ve been more pissed than this."
DeleteThat falls on the management - not on PK, he was their leading scorer up till he got injured.
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ReplyDeleteAdam Vingan @AdamVingan 1h1 hour ago
David Poile on P.K. Subban: "He is the modern-day defenseman."
With all due respect people can shove the mark messier award up their asses.
ReplyDeleteBBB is completely full of shit. To say this move was a 'hockey move' and nothing to do with PK's personality on and/or off the ice is complete and utter bullshit and EVERYBODY can see right through it.
ReplyDeleteWelcome SHea Weber. He's no Swiss Miss 2.
Montreal isn't Nashville and Habs fans won't forget PK. We have to accept he's gone but he will be missed. Win a fucking Cup already.
DeleteThat's the spirit moe.
DeleteApart from mario tremblay the biggest bigoted slug on rds is gaston therrien and his giddiness is vile.
ReplyDeleteShea Weber has an $8-million signing bonus on Friday the Predators avoid.
ReplyDeleteThe Preds eat any re-capture cap if Shea (needs a nickname) retires early.
DeleteIt's Roy all over again. Can't take it. Fuck you Bergevin. Fuck you Therrien. Habs are dead to me.
ReplyDeleteHear, hear!
DeleteThis is like lucking out and meeting a great gal, falling head over heels for her, only to lose her because of some short-sightedness. She'll never be out of your mind no matter how pretty and fun things might be or get to be. Might've been there. Read into it what you like.
ReplyDeleteAlso, how FHFucking weird is it that on our 100000th view that PFK heads west.
"Right now I'm going to a team that wants me," Subban told Nashville media.
ReplyDeleteFUCK YOU
Bruce Arthur @bruce_arthur 1h1 hour ago
ReplyDeleteIf Subban for Weber was a hockey decision, as Marc Bergevin is trying to say, his hockey judgement is in serious question
He's a liar.
DeleteFirst, I'd just like to say that this "hockey trade" was made for two reasons. 1. Michel Therrien. 2. To protect Max Pacioretty, Mr. Corporate, from being out played on the ice and out shone in the dressing room.
ReplyDeleteSecondly, I agree with moe, we have to move on. PK is gone but will not be forgotten. I predict that the Montreal Canadiens will regret this move down the road. Chris Chelios, Eric Desjardins, Mathieu Schneider, Ryan McDonagh and now PK Subban. Anybody like those guys?
Last, the Montreal Canadiens have become a staid, conservative organization who don't want any large personalities on their team. Let's all play eMTy's "system" and enjoy the "process". We can't have any excitement on the ice now can we? Can you say Lottery team?
This is all Mr Molsens fault. He should have fired both clowns at the end of the season. But we go to war with the army we have. BBQ is not chopped liver. If he is good in the room we win the trade right, cause the cup is won in the room not on the ice.
ReplyDeleteAll that leadership must be the reason the Predators won a Stanley Cup.
DeleteBergevin made sure to make it very difficult for PK to vist the kids every Sunday. I saw an 8-year-old on the news, they will also suffer the loss.
ReplyDeletejuce, it hurts to see PFK leave but he did say in his presser that he will be there for them, the kids.
DeleteI believe he will be there in a financial sense but the geography will certainly be a factor when it comes to visiting.
DeleteMolson should cut a cheque for the whole ten mill
DeleteNashville will sell out the house, Bettman must be just giddy.
ReplyDeletePFK kicked it off with his 'Howdy'. They are lucky to have him.
DeleteFuck me...look back to the last thread and you'll see what I said I feared would happen. Much like the vote for Brexit I can't really belive it has happened. Marc Bergevin is a weasel cocksucker and a liar. Lie to me once...shame on you. Lie to me again ...shame on me - is what they say - but I knew it was going to happen. I have no opinion on Shea Webber because the Montreal Canadiens are now dead to me. Fuck you Marc Bergevin - you are a cunt. I feel sick. This is not your team - this is our team - all you have done is to set it back another decade. Fuck you.
ReplyDeleteYou were right,K3X and your comment, as far as I am concerned, is bang on.
DeleteMy apologies for using the c word Juce - no offence intended
DeleteNo apologies necessary, I understand how you feel.
DeleteI'm not calm yet, but you're either going to quit the team or learn to move on. And no matter what, i can't quit the team. I would say the window to win a cup with the core we have isn't closed, but it's shutting a lot quicker today than it was yesterday. I think Shweb? SFW? still has a good 3 years in him to help the team towards that goal. Now do I think BBB has the hockey mind to get the other players needed to make that happen? After today, do you need to even ask?
ReplyDeleteBut we still got Carey's healthy knee. So no worries.
I've been reading comments on various Twitter accounts, this one caught my eye (among many): The Canadiens run their star athlete out of town and keep a coach basically no on likes. Except Bergevin. Former player Anthony Stewart couldn't believe how PK was treated during his time there. Although the majority of fans adored him, Habs management constantly tried to beat him down. They benched him repeatedly, bridged him, low balled him and finally traded him. Way to go Marc and Mike, you win. You folks in Nashville enjoy him, he's a special player.
ReplyDeleteI'll be attending more Sea Dogs games this year than normal.
ReplyDeleteNo Habs merchandise either.
Échange #PKSubban: Élise Béliveau (veuve de Jean Béliveau) dit qu'elle "est bouleversée".
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/SebBovetSRC/status/748259107627483136
Richard Labbé @Richardlabbe 5h5 hours ago
ReplyDelete#CH Je viens de parler à B.Gallagher, qui est sous le choc. "J'ai besoin d'un peu de temps pour penser à tout ça..."
Labbé said when he spoke to KidA he was shocked and said he needed time to think.
ReplyDeleteIt's been a shocking day. I'm packing it in, got to get up for an early tee time. 'Night folks.
ReplyDeleteBe the big spoon the M..
DeleteDoes 'araCHnid' work for a nic?
ReplyDeleteSpidey?
Deletehttp://montreal.ctvnews.ca/call-of-the-wilde-they-actually-did-it-1.2967744
ReplyDeleteThe US can handle a black president but the Montreal Canadiens can't handle a black star player.
ReplyDeleteOn TSN and MT on post season presser, MT said he tried to protect Galchenyuk from top players like Weber. Hmmm...we know where BBB gets his advice from.
ReplyDeleteThe only thing (ONLY) thing that gets me through this is knowing that PK is going to thrive down in Nashville. No media trying to destroy him, no management trying to destroy him. He'll be a huge presence in a market that is smaller, but apparently has rabid fans (been reading about them for years now). And let's be real, the South is a great market for PK to finally become the face of the franchise and really sell hockey to a whole new generation. They're going to love him down there. So good for PK.
ReplyDeleteThe deeper depression is knowing that Molson had to sign off on this, so this disease goes straight to the top. Even if Molson was iffy about MB/MT he wouldn't have allowed him to make such a big move with a franchise player. It also indicates that the organization as a whole learned nothing from the Roy trade (or McDonnaugh trade). Politics is more important than winning, and it's hard to be a 'fan' of that.
ReplyDeleteI don't know, I hate that in sports people always say you have to be loyal to be a 'real' fan. Sorry, at this point if your a still a "Habs fan" your really just a fan of MT's ego and MB's incompetence. They're a business and they've already gotten decades of business from me out of loyalty. It's about time they start actually trying to make a good product to keep me. Not even just winning, but at least TRYING to win.
Oh, and Carrey is definitely gone when his contract is up now. And what UFA thinks of signing here now?
Preds already have PK's jersey ready to go (don't look if you don't want to feel even more depressed).
ReplyDeletehttps://twitter.com/PredsProShop/status/748250111004774400
Going to be a quiet blog moe, with people quitting the team and all. I'll just have to post more often. Alrighty then.
ReplyDeleteWith all due respect, I didn't hear anyone say they quit on moeman and this blog.
DeleteSomeone call an exorcist cause Harold Ballards spirit has got control of Mr Molson
ReplyDeleteThere was no complelling hockey reason to make this trade. TFS does not need the best defensive defence man. I fear we have got Plyon two, a big man who moves slow. A great trap guy. I think PFK just wore out his welcome with Mr Molson. MT and BB have been plotting this since he signed the $9 mill contract. I bet PFK leads Nashville in scoring next year with 80 to 100 pts. I bet Lego goes over twenty goals and fifty points. I bet DDD get PP and zero points. I dont think this trade is the worst, maybe number 4 or 5. It is possible that in the win now equation Weber beats PFK. The eight years after that total loss.
ReplyDeleteI posted my last comments at about 1.30 am UK time. I tried going to sleep after that but couldn't get it out of my head. I have now literally lost a night's sleep over this. I am so angry with the Habs management I don't know what to do. I watched Bergevin's presser this morning and the guy is unbelievable. He called Webber a "diamond in the rough" - He's fucking 31 years old - he's well past being "in the rough" For the money he gets he better be able to sit alongside the crown jewels FFS. He called hima stud who will love the eastern division because it's a piece of cake compared to the west. Not past his prime - lots of years left...I would love to hear Nashville's presser. How much you bet he says something along the lines of "I decided I wpoiuld take a chance and I gave Bergy a call. I said how 'bout this - PK for Webber - Fuck me - he said yes. He didn't ask me for anythinhg else either. No draft picks, no 4th liners - I couldn't believe my luck - Hey - if you get a chance to get an elite defenseman just entering his prime and all you have to do is give up one of you veterans whose best years are behind him - you make that deal mutherfucker!!"
ReplyDeleteAfter sleeping on it, I can see where Bergevin is coming from. Last season many of us complained that the Habs were one of the easiest teams in the league to play against, as soft as room temperature butter. I'm not blaming PK for that, that's not his game to run people. Weber and Shaw have changed that and I don't think Bergevin is done yet. They say time heals all wounds and PK's departure will eventually heal, I think but that is way, way down the road. Bergevin (and Geoff Molson) has taken a huge gamble here and he better be right or they are both going to be hung in effigy. I hope during the season opener Shea Weber is not booed in the introductions, but please feel free to unload on eMTy.
ReplyDeleteFinally, I look forward to Moey posting more often. I like her short, succinct comments during games such as: "Oh poo".
I'm off to Fredericton to play the Mactaquac provincial golf course, I'm breaking 90 today if it kills me!
Regards,
the Maritimer
Thanks the M! I'm glad somebody has an appreciation of my insightful in-depth game analysis. Good luck with your golf and for the love of God stay away from foxholes!
DeleteGood luck to the M. I'm still trying to break 100, but only get out 6-8 times per year.
ReplyDeleteI actually had a nightmare about this last night and awoke with a brief hope that the whole thing was a dream, but I quickly realized it wasn't the case. How ironic that PK needs to escape to the south to escape the bigotry and racism.
I have the same concern as the M. I hope the fans don't take it out on Web on opening night - save that shit for the foxholers.
Still in mild shock but no longer in denial that this was nothing but a hockey decision, as potentially fearfully a failed decision. It weirds me out that the Montreal canadiens couldn't see beyond just a hockey player and recognize the full value of PFK. We are going to miss him but life as a Habs fan goes on. I did ponder though if a Patrick Roy, at the helm of the Habs, would've made this move. Heh, of course not because MT2 would never have been hired in the first place. My other concern is Goeff Molson's managerial CHops. So far, meh. Also, another great Timmins' pick goes away. Sad but true.
ReplyDeleteSo, time to move on. Time to figure out a simpler blog header with less devotion to my fave Habs. Great to see the passion of all the FHFers.
Merci PK.
Too bad this organization can't appreciate a once-in-a-generation talent and fan fave when they have it. PK will be terribly missed. Weber will give us his best but it's hard to imagine him and Markov - both slow-footed by today's standards - pairing up that well. So Petry or Beaulieu on the top pairing? Perhaps.
DeleteAfter reading Wilde's column, where he tells of an elephant in the room, I recall the curious "dangling" comment from Lafleur a few weeks back and I wonder if maybe some players/mgmt on the team have "small hands" and can't handle their own shortcomings.
OMG, eMTy has penis envy
DeleteSo the Predators GM (Anna Gainey I assume), called the Canadiens GM (David Cameron, apparently) to trade their team captain, Stephen Harper, to the Candiens for our rising star, Justin Trudeau?
ReplyDeleteAnd Habs fans are supposed to applaud this?
Scott Stinson
ReplyDeleteWhere the Subban trade becomes insane is in the fact that, in a league governed by a hard salary cap, Weber has one of the largest contracts in the sport. He is four years into a 14-year, US$110-million contract that will carry a charge against the salary cap of almost $8-million for each of the next 10 seasons. TEN SEASONS. (Sorry for the yelling.) At which point Weber, who last year was the 50th-best defenceman in the NHL in terms of even-strength point production at age 30, will be 40 years old. Subban, meanwhile, is four years younger, and is owed $9-million on the cap for the next six seasons. Nashville will stop owing him big money when he is 32, or eight years younger than Weber at the point at which Montreal will stop paying him like an elite defenceman. Sports teams often make wild long-term deals with total awareness that it will be a terrible contract in the later years, in the understanding that the future pain is worth the present value of acquiring the player. The Predators chose that with Weber — forced into it by a Flyers’ offer sheet to Weber when he was a restricted free agent — then sloughed off the anchor years of the deal on the Canadiens in exchange for a new defenceman in his prime. Put another way, Montreal gave up key productive years of Subban in exchange for the penalty years of the Weber contract. So, there’s that.
What Scott does not take into account is the cap floor. Pronger anyone? So I expect Weber, Spidey, BBQ, PKN (PK not) will end his carreer surrounded by hookers and blwo in Vegas.
DeleteWeber acknowledged Subban’s popularity and said: “I’m not P.K. Subban. But I have a strong work ethic and a good attitude and I’m coming to Montreal to help the team win.”
ReplyDeleteOne of the worst aspects of this trade is there is no way to take Habs mgmt seriously. The imacculate trade, never even talked about it, never thought about it, it just happened. What I believe really happened is PFK was shopped hard, and with the deadline approaching, grabbed the floating turd. Sicne Taylor Hall was given away for a bag of pucks, WTF could we not have made a deal with EDM? This does indicatee that perhaps we did overvalue PFK or Chirelli also has a small penis.
ReplyDeleteWe need clear rules on who is Capitian from now on, player with biggest penis is Capatian, simple
ReplyDeleteno need for discusson.
I have had some time to reflect. I did not sleep last night because of how angered I was. I saw this coming a long time ago and now I am going to wake up on Canada Day without PK being on the Habs roster - because he was bigger than Marc Bergevin and Michel Therrien. In his presser, there was not one mention of PK being an elite D man - and no matter what you think about his flashy behaviour, he was amongst the league elite. Not being selected to play in the September circle jerk does not mean he wasnt a top quality D man. But he was the best asset the habs have had in a very long time (besides TFS) and he was treated horribly. Bergevin was dismissive of any suggestion that Webber was past his prime. "Fuck you - I'm marc Bergevin - I know everything - you know shit" was what he said to the reporter who dared to ask the question. (I paraphrase...) But the presser was a repeat of the end of year presser and it will be the same all season long. The press can ask what they want - Marc knows best and fuck you for asking me that question you asshole!. I don't know if Webber is slow, fast, fat or 6'8 - but he is a Hab now and he's getting more money than anyone on the team so he better earn it. He's a stud...a diamond in the rough (pretty sure those two are contradictory but I should fuck off I'm not Marc Bergevin - so what do I know).
ReplyDeleteThe Habs are not dead to me, as much as I did say those exact words last night. They will never be dead to me - but a big part of me did die last night. The part that really really cares and really believes that they can win the Stanley Cup again. That died. Marc Bergevin killed it. Swarmy prick alluded to another deal he has cooking - so look for him to trade Galchenyuk, Beaulieu and DLR for a power forward and 2 - 2nd round draft picks. Just wait...
The M - good luck on that golf game. Keep at 'er and you'll break 90 in no time.
Merci PK - like I said - once a Hab, always a Hab!!
Bienvenue Webber - don't fuck things up!
Go you fucking Habs Go!!
Dont worry, its a wwll known fact that Weber can say this with authority. My only doubt about Dumb and Dumber is will they give DDD enough ice time this year.
DeleteRIP Alvin Toffler
ReplyDeleteTune into Marinaro, he is giving the (allegeded) reason PFK was traded
ReplyDeleteMarinaro is trying to sell himself as an 'insider' to Habs players past and present and that he's the guy they go running to to bear their souls and inner secrets.
DeleteAwesome day.
ReplyDeleteAbsolutely awesome.
Shea Webber is the stud Dman we need.
Feared shot, defense first.
Quiet guy, natural leader.
Exactly what this team needed.
I wasn't a big fan of DGMB until now.
But wow, to pull the trigger on this took some big balls.
We are absolutely a better team now.
It's a new dawn!
Woot Woot!!
Go Habs
Love the optimism.
DeleteStayed up late and read all the reactions from all over the league on the internets last night. Everyone, including Nashville and its fans, thinks Montreal got fleeced. On top of that, no one can figure out why MB even made this move (EDM got fleeced, but at least they moved an extra part and filled a need). Hockey fans from all teams, including Toronto, Boston and Ottawa, have been flooding Hab chat boards to offer condolences. So it's not just us over-sensitive Hab fans reacting to this nonsense.
ReplyDeleteBesides the players themselves, what does this team potential UFAs? Why on Earth would they sign in Montreal now? Knowing that the coach is an egomaniac douche with no skills, yet an untouchable god. Either play his terrible 90s hockey or be scapegoated and thrown away. Why play in Montreal where skill is demonized and favourites are given rewards based on language ability rather than results? This isn't just about this trade, as terrible as it is, it's about sending a message to all players, present and potential. Therrien is in charge, he is infallible and he is god. Price is probably already thinking of where to sign in 2 years. Why would he bother staying here now? The only guy on the team probably happy with the trade is Patches. No one to upstage him now by actually showing up each game and trying. But also no one to take the heat when he screws up late in the game.
Just a few days ago I really believed, even with MT, they were just one top-6 signing away from being a legit contender in the whole NHL. Now the team is much weaker, I have no hope that scoring will be addressed, and the GM and owner have come out to be even dumber and more self-centered than the coach.
Loyalty is just another name for 'sucker'. I'm not going to feed MT and MB's vanity.
listening to Marinaro if what is being said is true trading PFK is entirely understandable.
DeleteNow he says he knew in April PK was getting traded because GM called him to find out about PK.
DeleteWow, Marinaro must really revered in the 'hockey world' so much so that they look to him for his 'insight'.
He and McSplooge could make Vegas win the cup year one
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ReplyDeleteI think PK's comments in Vegas that team needs to do a better job from the top of the organization on down sealed his fate. They didn't like that he pointed fingers at them and included them for also being responsible of their epic collapse and not making the team better during the season. Which was entirely true but "Fuck you - I'm marc Bergevin, PK - I know everything - you know shit and never point the finger at me or my foxhole roomie who used to trash you at every opportunity on AC before I hired him"
ReplyDeleteYeah I think PFK knew at that point he was toast
DeleteBlockbuster- Weber and TFS are long term buds from BC
ReplyDeleteJust checking in to see if this is real. Yep. Thank jeebus it's a long weekend - lot's of drinking time ahead.
ReplyDeleteLeaf fans at my office are ecstatic about the PK deal. They're deflecting, but it's a hell of a deflector.
Mais ce qui saute aux yeux, depuis le début, c’est que dans le sport professionnel le plus conservateur, on ne l’a jamais aimé. Très précisément parce qu’il est « spécial ».
ReplyDeleteLe hockey n’est pas seulement le plus conservateur des sports professionnels en Amérique du Nord. C’est aussi… le plus blanc.
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Interest sky high in Milan Lucic. Told that Montreal among the many teams showing interest. Edm, Van, Dallas, etc. No shortage of interest
Wow, so Lucic a better fit than PK? The guy who mimed raising the Cup, stood up in the penalty box, turned to face the crowd and made masturbation motions to the fans at the Bell and to the millions watching on TV including kids. Well, maybe he's 'good in the room' eh?
Hey Guys and Gals! I'm back from trying to conquer Mactaquac...and I failed in my mission to break 90. First, let me explain: this course is 600 yds longer than my home course with absolutely HUGE greens. They hadn't been mowed and were soft from last night's rain and really hard to figure out the speed of any putt. Anyway, I'm not to bent out of shape about my 95 on a course I'm unfamiliar with. I shot an 81 last Friday at my course and hit in the mid 80's semi-regularly.
ReplyDeleteI'm curious as to what Marinaro said about the PK trade. Did he slight someone or was he just too big a personality for BBB and AF to deal with? Apparently David Poile and LaViolette (aka Eddie Munster) can't wait for him to get there.
Anyway, Welcome Shea Weber! I hope you take the Jackal and the Rat's heads off early!!
Oh! If my memory is correct I seem to remember the Shaved Ape being a pretty dominant defenceman from 30-36 years of age. Hopefully Weber can repeat that. And, I'll bet the first guy who tries to run Price will pay a price, no pun intended.
PK is such a bad person and so much of a distraction that he was invited to parliment to listen to Obama.
ReplyDeleteSince the Preds got their hands on PK before midnight tonight, they were able to void it.
ReplyDeleteLet's try that again.
DeleteSince the Preds got their hands on PK before midnight tonight, they were able to void his NMC.