World on his shoulders, that much we know. And the french Québec media bubble is hard to avoid when it makes up the whole world for all your oldest friends and family. I hope he's able to recover from whatever it is. But I wouldn't be surprised if he can only shine in another market.
I think its a mental problem. IF this is true do you ever wonder why no pure wool every flock to Montreal like the equivalent do to Toronto? Way to much pressure. How the greats did it, I dont know, it was before facebook. Those who are born great have to answer to Gods we never meet.
It's the fans more than the media. His home is full of people watching jis every move. He can't escape if things on the ice go sour. Naked everywhere he goes.
Go Strider. Always a fan. Dunno how many times I read the series. OK we better come out flying. I mean FLYING FFS. It's time to get some wings and slap those fucking leaves around Fuck I hate the leaf Go Habs
Poker night for me but I'll have the game on in the background.
Will Bilbo be Baggin' some goals?
Will Jake pitch a Shutt-out?
So many storylines you won't hear about on the SFU as they will spend the entire pre-game analyzing the Narco-Foligno collision in practice from 2 days ago.
Leafs are the best post-season matchup (if Habs make it, don't like to count the chickens...) because of their goaltending. Time to start scoring some goals now to put a little more doubt into the pile of compost.
I think we are justified in ripping the disgustingly biased, moronic and all around fucked-up leaf mediots but let's not forget that there are many in the Montreal media too.
I have always been very negative about Drouin and his play for the Habs - but I wish him nothing but the best personally and hope that whatever he is dealing with comes good soon.
As bad as the leaf media dn fans are you gotta admit there are a lot of rose tinted glasses worn by many many Habs fans. Habs haven't been very good in all four of my kids lifetimes (the oldest turns 25 this year!) so a little realism is probably needed. Difference for us Habs fan is that we are generally nicer people than most leaf fans so it's easier for us adjust our expectations.
Tonight's game is an 8 pm start so that means I'm not gonna watch live. Looks like they are moving the lines around and giving Bilbo more of an opportunity to score a goal.
End of the day - Just Fucking Win! It's the mutherfucking leaf for God's sake. There is no other option.
Lastly - love the Shutt pic Moe - always one of my favs growing up.
man.... u guys have me more confused than burgerbin trying to explain his latest 5-yr plan.
last thread, you guys throw out bob newheart and his classic b&w pin-up wife. he was a late night talk show host? before that, you guys put up a johnny carson reference?
now all of a sudden, u guys are calling CC, bilbo baggins? im confused about this one too. i thought he did ok in his debut. no real need to rag on him for not getting on the score sheet. lucky ducharme messed it up by not putting him on the 5v3 pp. sure cpt bbq got it done, but on a 5v3 pp, if u dont score on a bing-bang-boom play, you've failed.
this steve shutt reference... i assume its b/c he wore #22 also? honestly i totally forgot he wore it until looking it up on a hunch. my memory cant get this this #22 out of my head: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ_PRlaGkcU
Re: Jonathan Drouin --- This was a bad move by bergy right from the start. JD was doomed to fail as soon as he signed that big contract. We all know what was given up to get JD and on top of that they anointed him as the #1 center out of the gate. Plus, we were all aware of the circumstances in Tampa regarding the sitting out and refusal to go to the AHL. It was bad optics right from the get go. All that is on bergevin not JD. I am not aware of how JD is being treated by the Quebecois media, I always thought they laid off him because he was a home grown player. However, I'm sure even they have seen the same things we all have and the pressure on him has probably grown. I'll bet John Tavares feels the same way sometimes in Toronto when his play drops off.
Anyway, I wish JD all the best and I agree with Saint Paddy, a fresh start is probably in order and I would suggest Colorado as a destination because his former linemate Nathan MacKinnon would take a lot of the heat off JD.
Now, let's all hope that Montreal lays a good fucking licking on the despicable leaf tonight. We can hope can't we?
As I recall, Bergevin was responding to french media pressure (mostly from loud, racist, Péladeau mediots) to clone Guy Lafleur somehow, and then he thought (wrongly) JD would not only be that, but at centre. Sergachev looked like a good D but he thought he could easily spare him (again, wrongly) in attaining a top talent that was looking like he checked all the boxes. But reality bites. Now he plays like he's terrified to get hurt again. Hope he finds his way through this and comes out stronger and wiser. But it could go either way for him.
Maybe the Druid saga will end the big game hunting for French superstars. This trade has turned out to be a cup losing disaster for Montreal. Imagine if CHevy was in our line up right now? Same for the CHoach and GM. Lets take the best from the world not a province of 5 million who used to be big players but the world has taken all they know and used AI to move to a different place where excellence and language are not synomous.
It should. The expectations are impossible. The Richards, Beliveau, Savard, Lemaire, Roadrunner, Flower, even Carbo and Roy, made it seem like it SHOULD happen for any francophone de souche kid with skill to excel. That's the Quebec hinterland for you.
There are several key people the Habs must not protect. TFS and BBQ cause the Kraken won't touch the contracts... Druid because no team would take him even for free plus he has a stupid big contract.
Protect KidA, Power horse, Toffee, Dish, Alain, and whichever of the kids they have to INCLUDING Sevens... Maybe Danault
Yeah Drouin might just end up Krakking Seattle's lineup. But I won't write him off yet, if the Habs make the playoffs we just might see him again.
Oleg as has been mentioned, Kotkaniemi referred to Caufield as Bilbo on social media. Looks like it will stick. It's not a terrible name, Bilbo was the hero of the story despite his stature. And somebody posted a side by side pic of Cole and Martin Freeman, not a spitting image but some similarities.
I read the Lord of the Rings three times over 5 years and watched the whole movie once and Chapter 3 twice. Argue Lord of the Rings with me at your folly/
Over decades, the Montreal Canadiens have become politicized with the language constraints. At one time only the coach had to be bilingual, now apparently the GM must be as well. Like Steve said, it's a small pool to draw from. Bob Gainey was fluently bilingual but I'm pretty sure the Quebec media shit all over him, saying "he spoke white" whatever the fuck that means. The big soccer leagues in Europe hire the best coach available regardless of language. Are Quebec governments that insecure about protecting the language that they are threatened by the coach of a hockey team who can't speak it? Seems to be a bit of a stretch to me. Does Geoff Molson want to win or appease the separatists? Maybe he should sell the team if the latter.
Saying all that, who would be considered the best Quebecois player currently in the league? Lafreniere? Will he ever be a star like Lecavalier? Seems to me the QMJHL are not producing the caliber of players like Lafleur or Lemieux any more. The last Q superstar players are both Nova Scotians.
Dubois, if we had traded Nature for Dubois both side would be happy now. Laine is a ball busting prima donna. Nature at his best will be the guy from Edmonton.
I thought JH should have gone 1st overall in his draft year, a Memorial Cup winner. I think he still doesn't get the respect he deserves. A good player but Lecavalier good.
"Are Quebec governments that insecure about protecting the language that they are threatened by the coach of a hockey team who can't speak it?"
Absolutely, and it's just that demagoguery that only Philippe CouillRd had the guts to point out. No one dares anymore, and we just kowtow to Bill 21 anti-Charter crap.
Just before that third Leafs goal, the Habs had control of the puck in the offensive zone and nobody would pass it to the wide open Caufield. Instead Czar carried the puck right down into coverage, leaving young Caufield to watch the blue line and eventuallh go back and cover the D. I don't understand.
When the last whistle on this season has blown, the fan base might erupt. We have been sucking and blowing since we made the PFK trade. We needed a No 1 center and a mobile D man for BBQ, we got the Druid instead. It going to be 3 years before we know what KOHO and Nature have. By that time BBQ and TFS will be using walkers on the ice. IF we do not make a serious move in the playoffs its time to sell off. BBQ, Tuna, I am not giving DANO more than 4 M a year. Look at Ottawa, in 3 years they could be lapping us.
I don't know how this season is going to play out. All I know is next season if Montreal gets off to a fast start, I am NOT getting sucked into the hype. They are a mediocre team. Period.
Druid on LTIR for personal reasons. Hoping for the best for him.
ReplyDeleteI know most of us have crapped on him, but I wish nothing but the best and hope he's eventually back stronger than ever, physically and mentally.
DeleteWorld on his shoulders, that much we know. And the french Québec media bubble is hard to avoid when it makes up the whole world for all your oldest friends and family. I hope he's able to recover from whatever it is. But I wouldn't be surprised if he can only shine in another market.
DeleteI think its a mental problem. IF this is true do you ever wonder why no pure wool every flock to Montreal like the equivalent do to Toronto? Way to much pressure. How the greats did it, I dont know, it was before facebook.
DeleteThose who are born great have to answer to Gods we never meet.
It's the fans more than the media. His home is full of people watching jis every move. He can't escape if things on the ice go sour. Naked everywhere he goes.
DeleteGo Strider.
ReplyDeleteAlways a fan.
Dunno how many times I read the series.
OK we better come out flying.
I mean FLYING FFS.
It's time to get some wings and slap those fucking leaves around
Fuck I hate the leaf
Go Habs
Strider, I love it, I assume you are referring to the prodigal son of the footwear company.
DeleteFUCK THE LEAF!!! FUCK THE SFU!!!
ReplyDeleteYes and tonite lets make Soupy a dish served in a calader
DeletePoker night for me but I'll have the game on in the background.
ReplyDeleteWill Bilbo be Baggin' some goals?
Will Jake pitch a Shutt-out?
So many storylines you won't hear about on the SFU as they will spend the entire pre-game analyzing the Narco-Foligno collision in practice from 2 days ago.
Leafs are the best post-season matchup (if Habs make it, don't like to count the chickens...) because of their goaltending. Time to start scoring some goals now to put a little more doubt into the pile of compost.
Yep, long way to go, 3 Habs losses in a row and 3 Flames wins in a row and it's anybody's spot.
DeleteI do not like Bilbo for CC. First Bilbo was a lazy ass. Second, he had no confidence, third he had a magic ring.
DeleteI think we are justified in ripping the disgustingly biased, moronic and all around fucked-up leaf mediots but let's not forget that there are many in the Montreal media too.
ReplyDeleteI have always been very negative about Drouin and his play for the Habs - but I wish him nothing but the best personally and hope that whatever he is dealing with comes good soon.
ReplyDeleteAs bad as the leaf media dn fans are you gotta admit there are a lot of rose tinted glasses worn by many many Habs fans. Habs haven't been very good in all four of my kids lifetimes (the oldest turns 25 this year!) so a little realism is probably needed. Difference for us Habs fan is that we are generally nicer people than most leaf fans so it's easier for us adjust our expectations.
Tonight's game is an 8 pm start so that means I'm not gonna watch live. Looks like they are moving the lines around and giving Bilbo more of an opportunity to score a goal.
End of the day - Just Fucking Win! It's the mutherfucking leaf for God's sake. There is no other option.
Lastly - love the Shutt pic Moe - always one of my favs growing up.
I think most of us have seen Stanley Cup wins and can hark on that.
Delete30 years is beyond ludicrous but the league has changed. Not an excuse.
Also love Shutt's game, flying down the wing.
man.... u guys have me more confused than burgerbin trying to explain his latest 5-yr plan.
ReplyDeletelast thread, you guys throw out bob newheart and his classic b&w pin-up wife. he was a late night talk show host? before that, you guys put up a johnny carson reference?
now all of a sudden, u guys are calling CC, bilbo baggins? im confused about this one too. i thought he did ok in his debut. no real need to rag on him for not getting on the score sheet. lucky ducharme messed it up by not putting him on the 5v3 pp. sure cpt bbq got it done, but on a 5v3 pp, if u dont score on a bing-bang-boom play, you've failed.
this steve shutt reference... i assume its b/c he wore #22 also? honestly i totally forgot he wore it until looking it up on a hunch. my memory cant get this this #22 out of my head:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQ_PRlaGkcU
KK called Cole Bilbo on social media.
DeleteThis is where my intense ambivalence to JRR Tolkien leaves me ferklempt. More of a Douglas Adams, SCTV fan myself.
DeleteMust have furry feet
ReplyDeleteGo Habs
Re: Jonathan Drouin --- This was a bad move by bergy right from the start. JD was doomed to fail as soon as he signed that big contract. We all know what was given up to get JD and on top of that they anointed him as the #1 center out of the gate. Plus, we were all aware of the circumstances in Tampa regarding the sitting out and refusal to go to the AHL. It was bad optics right from the get go. All that is on bergevin not JD. I am not aware of how JD is being treated by the Quebecois media, I always thought they laid off him because he was a home grown player. However, I'm sure even they have seen the same things we all have and the pressure on him has probably grown. I'll bet John Tavares feels the same way sometimes in Toronto when his play drops off.
ReplyDeleteAnyway, I wish JD all the best and I agree with Saint Paddy, a fresh start is probably in order and I would suggest Colorado as a destination because his former linemate Nathan MacKinnon would take a lot of the heat off JD.
Now, let's all hope that Montreal lays a good fucking licking on the despicable leaf tonight. We can hope can't we?
I'm not one to speculate but maybe Druid ends up in Seattle?
DeleteAs I recall, Bergevin was responding to french media pressure (mostly from loud, racist, Péladeau mediots) to clone Guy Lafleur somehow, and then he thought (wrongly) JD would not only be that, but at centre. Sergachev looked like a good D but he thought he could easily spare him (again, wrongly) in attaining a top talent that was looking like he checked all the boxes. But reality bites. Now he plays like he's terrified to get hurt again. Hope he finds his way through this and comes out stronger and wiser. But it could go either way for him.
DeleteMaybe the Druid saga will end the big game hunting for French superstars. This trade has turned out to be a cup losing disaster for Montreal. Imagine if CHevy was in our line up right now?
DeleteSame for the CHoach and GM. Lets take the best from the world not a province of 5 million who used to be big players but the world has taken all they know and used AI to move to a different place where excellence and language are not synomous.
It should. The expectations are impossible. The Richards, Beliveau, Savard, Lemaire, Roadrunner, Flower, even Carbo and Roy, made it seem like it SHOULD happen for any francophone de souche kid with skill to excel. That's the Quebec hinterland for you.
DeleteThere are several key people the Habs must not protect. TFS and BBQ cause the Kraken won't touch the contracts... Druid because no team would take him even for free plus he has a stupid big contract.
DeleteProtect KidA, Power horse, Toffee, Dish, Alain, and whichever of the kids they have to INCLUDING Sevens... Maybe Danault
Yeah Drouin might just end up Krakking Seattle's lineup. But I won't write him off yet, if the Habs make the playoffs we just might see him again.
ReplyDeleteOleg as has been mentioned, Kotkaniemi referred to Caufield as Bilbo on social media. Looks like it will stick. It's not a terrible name, Bilbo was the hero of the story despite his stature. And somebody posted a side by side pic of Cole and Martin Freeman, not a spitting image but some similarities.
JBTFL!!!!
Francis would probably want a 2nd round pick and/or a prospect.
DeleteFrancis will build a beast, following what worked for Vegas, and applying his sick crafty mind to the task.
DeleteI will Reiterate, Bilbo is a terrible name for Caufield. Bilbo was like KidA not a star since birth.
DeleteI miss Kadillak too. He scored one of the two goals by any D all month if memory serves, but Streep is no slouch either, and Czar has to be there.
DeleteI played shinny with Ron Francis at Maple Leaf Gardens back in the day.
Deletethnx for explaining for bilbo.
ReplyDelete690 just said he stays in and romeo inserts back in. who sits? pls pls pls pls dont tell me its sEvans...
...and put back kadilac! no more gus, no more mulletboy
I read the Lord of the Rings three times over 5 years and watched the whole movie once and Chapter 3 twice. Argue Lord of the Rings with me at your folly/
DeleteSevans and Frolik are in because Tuna and LB are out. At practce, Toffee/Nature/Bilbo were on a line together.
DeleteOver decades, the Montreal Canadiens have become politicized with the language constraints. At one time only the coach had to be bilingual, now apparently the GM must be as well. Like Steve said, it's a small pool to draw from. Bob Gainey was fluently bilingual but I'm pretty sure the Quebec media shit all over him, saying "he spoke white" whatever the fuck that means. The big soccer leagues in Europe hire the best coach available regardless of language. Are Quebec governments that insecure about protecting the language that they are threatened by the coach of a hockey team who can't speak it? Seems to be a bit of a stretch to me. Does Geoff Molson want to win or appease the separatists? Maybe he should sell the team if the latter.
ReplyDeleteSaying all that, who would be considered the best Quebecois player currently in the league? Lafreniere? Will he ever be a star like Lecavalier? Seems to me the QMJHL are not producing the caliber of players like Lafleur or Lemieux any more. The last Q superstar players are both Nova Scotians.
Huberdeau.
DeleteDubois, if we had traded Nature for Dubois both side would be happy now. Laine is a ball busting prima donna. Nature at his best will be the guy from Edmonton.
DeleteI thought JH should have gone 1st overall in his draft year, a Memorial Cup winner. I think he still doesn't get the respect he deserves. A good player but Lecavalier good.
Delete*not* as good...
Delete"Are Quebec governments that insecure about protecting the language that they are threatened by the coach of a hockey team who can't speak it?"
DeleteAbsolutely, and it's just that demagoguery that only Philippe CouillRd had the guts to point out. No one dares anymore, and we just kowtow to Bill 21 anti-Charter crap.
Just beat those wretched fucks!
ReplyDeleteput Soupy back in his can
Deleteholy crap. u guys see the hottie singing the anthem?! wowowoowoow!
ReplyDeletei assume mmme reno is resting for the playoffs?
assist to Buttman
ReplyDeleteSo far NHL live not showing the game live, whats new for the SFU
ReplyDeletemaybe it is some kind of AI protecting me
DeleteThink I'll turn this off and focus on poker...
ReplyDelete2 goals sllowed on the first four shots. Might be a long night at the office.
DeleteJust before that third Leafs goal, the Habs had control of the puck in the offensive zone and nobody would pass it to the wide open Caufield. Instead Czar carried the puck right down into coverage, leaving young Caufield to watch the blue line and eventuallh go back and cover the D. I don't understand.
ReplyDeleteJoel Bouchard had decent luck coaching CC. Just sayin'.
DeleteYeah, Ducharme isn't blowing me away here.
DeleteMan these guys are terrible in their own end.
ReplyDeleteCan't see this bunch winning any playoff games. Brutal.
Nature with some green shoots
ReplyDeleteNature! Bang!
ReplyDelete1- horsepower
ReplyDelete1- GIJoel
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the difference
Are the Habs tired or just a bit shit right now? Or both...?
ReplyDeleteIt's any anybody's guess
DeleteHa I can't type on my phone
DeleteShittired.
DeleteWhat don’t pigeons shit in, think about it.
DeleteWhen the last whistle on this season has blown, the fan base might erupt. We have been sucking and blowing since we made the PFK trade. We needed a No 1 center and a mobile D man for BBQ, we got the Druid instead. It going to be 3 years before we know what KOHO and Nature have. By that time BBQ and TFS will be using walkers on the ice. IF we do not make a serious move in the playoffs its time to sell off.
ReplyDeleteBBQ, Tuna, I am not giving DANO more than 4 M a year. Look at Ottawa, in 3 years they could be lapping us.
I don't know how this season is going to play out. All I know is next season if Montreal gets off to a fast start, I am NOT getting sucked into the hype. They are a mediocre team. Period.
ReplyDeleteAnd I guess your Giants are sticking with Daniel Jones. Good haul of extra picks though.
DeleteHa! you were typing 2 minutes before me. If they can protect Jones he should be OK. Hopefully Barkley recovers.
DeleteWow, the Giants trade the #11 pick to the Bears for a boatload. Hope their defence gets better.
ReplyDeleteSo long Cam, hello Mac!
ReplyDeleteWoohoo!
ReplyDeletehttps://fourhockeyfans.blogspot.com/2021/04/can-they-land-this-thing-jets.html
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