It is a good read. I think the timing of Ducharme's eventual firing (before or after a new GM is named) will tell us all we need to know about who calls the shots.
And I am afraid Ducharme's already proven he needs to be sent off in the sunset ASAP beford he ruins things any worse with the roster.
First, I would like to say that Marc Bergevin was a welcome change, replacing the awful Pierre Gauthier who thought he answered to no one. Where I think it went wrong for Bergevin was the unexpected playoff run in 2014. It gave him the false sense he had a contender on his hands with Price in net. He never followed through with his stated intentions of 'building through the draft'. Instead, he pulled the trigger on a massive trade to get Shea Weber and then tinkered around the edges with all his bargain basement shopping. He went all in in 2021 with his team in the Covid Canadian division an opportunity to get to the final 4 and he almost pulled it off. Alas, the 2021 Draft miscue, along with losing his two cornerstones did him in. It was time for a reset, let's hope Jeff Gorton can pull it off.
Interesting times. Seravelli was so smart to get out of that cesspool of Toronto.
Talk about a new structure with VP Gorton actually pulling the strings while the new person learns on the job. I love this. What about hiring the first female GM in NHL history? moe had thrown some names out about getting women into management a few months back. How about Danièle Sauvageau? I think she was on his list. And the names being bandied about have no experience, like Luongo or Briere (not sure what he's been up to), so why not a woman? Maybe recent HHOF inductee Kim St Pierre? And the first job of the new GM, man or woman, may be to rescind the first round pick from 2021.
What if … this is a creative workaround to pacify a fan base and market that demands a Francophone GM?
I've often questioned this 'urban myth' about the Francophone GM. Other than the separatist extremists like Raymond and Tremblay does the average Quebec citizen really give a rat's ass who is making trades or drafting the new kids? The coach I get, he talks to the media pretty much daily. The GM maybe 4 times a year? I can't recall if Pollock was bilingual, he was just smart. I think Serge Savard began the French component of the job (Grundman doesn't count) followed by Houle then Gainey and so on. I would like someone who speaks 'hockey', it's a universal language apparently.
BBQ showed up in Montreal today, so I bet Gorton wants his input on things. I coukd see Claude Julien being brought back if his ego allows it. After all, the guy who fired him less than a year ago just got fired himself. And he's still undr contract. Not really GM material though.
I hate Galley so much. Pointing out where Habs should be penalized and going on and on about the refs being right for not calling a penalty on the Canucks.
I'm sorry but this team needs an NHL coach to develop NHL players. I'd forgotten but Dom Ducharme has zero NHL playing experience. Whatever CJv2's issues, I always thought it was good he had a Cup ring (as coach). Kirk too.
That was the kind of tank we need, repeat for 360 games and we will be CHampions. I like the nice touches like continually passing the puck to the point in our own end.
All of Montreal's recent coaches seem to have the same mindset regarding young players. Punish not teach. I think it goes all the way back to Lemaire. Must be a doctrine or something.
But yeah, like Steve said don't win too much just a game here or there. Can't jeopardize that lottery pick. Still, Dom should get the boot, can't coach worth a tinker's darn.
Even though he's 70 years old, there needs to be a place in the organization for Larry Robinson.
In verifying Big Bird's age, I came across an unknown fact to myself, that Larry has a brother Moe. I think somebody's parents were fans of a certain comedy trio...
AND...Moe played 1 NHL game, 6 shifts for #Habs on Dec. 15, 1979 in a 6-2 loss to the Jets
So Pat Roy has thrown his hat in the ring. Not sure he checks the "Plays well with others" box that would be required to co-manage with Gorton, but it would be hella interesting to have him in place. He could be GM/Coach for the rest of the year. Do it!
St Pat knows he is not getting the job. What he wants to do is have the interview, and then tell the French press the job is for a puppet and I cut all my strings long ago.
If I can be introspective on this its kind of glass shattering. I never realized just how bad the era was because of the DGMG reality distortion field. He was some kind of genius and give him his due, we can within 3 wins of the Cup. That was DBMB.
I think it's going to be Darche. Gorton can continue to train him in GMing while he handles the press. Remember when chokula put Darche on the PP all the time? Used to drive us crazy.
Speaking of the PP why is douche bag refusing to put CC out there? Guess he is in on the tank. Send CC back to Laval so he can score some fucking goals. Gorton can't get here fast enough to dump that turd of a coach.
I have a feeling the first meeting between Gorton and Douche will be a little uncomfortable. Kinda like meeting the guy who will pull the lever on the guillotine...
(In Ducharme's head) GORTON: You must be Dom. DD: [incoherent mumbling] Jeff! Let me ask you if you've considered me taking on both the GM and Coaching roles? G: [ERUPTION OF LAUGHTER]
I haven't read the articles but the JdeM pushed out 4 obscene articles by their xenophobic crew on Monday. These fucks need to either STFU (they won't) or made to STFU.
Anyrhing less than a suitably pure-laine francophone in charge AND making the final hockey decisions would be a sign of the apocalypse for some of these small-minded morons given a platform on our Québec version of FOXNEWS. Péladink media.
Legault and PKP have a dedicated team toiling night and day to isolate the "de souche" chromosome for racial purity testing. Bill 96 implementation depends on it.
Bilingual, two-time Cup winner and Conn Smythe winner Brad Richards, 41, of impeccably-named Murray Harbour, PEI, who worked under Gorton at NYR, has reportedly landed in Montreal, as has Jeff.
No doubt some buffoons woukd but tha majority wouldn't bat an eye. But Richards is likely not a candidate for GM himself. Still a little green as I understand it.
McLame has a real crush on Brad Richards. I don't know what that means if he were to become GM, but it would be awkwardly interesting and yet horrible to watch him juggle his leafiness with the fact his crush is in charge of the Habs.
And if Brad gets the job, he needs to drop the 's' off the end of his name and 'sh' the 'ch' sound and he's gold. Brad Richard (Rishard).
Well, I was going to do an Emperors new clothes parody (54-40's Casual Viewin') but then Geoff made a decision. A good one.
ReplyDeleteFirst off, thanks to DGMB for his 10 years of work. Up and down but his heart was in it from day 1 to yesterday. Thanks Timmins too.
Welcome to the Montreal Canadiens Mr. Gorton. Bonne CHance.
Good read here from one of the few in the hockey media with professional integrity.
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It is a good read. I think the timing of Ducharme's eventual firing (before or after a new GM is named) will tell us all we need to know about who calls the shots.
DeleteAnd I am afraid Ducharme's already proven he needs to be sent off in the sunset ASAP beford he ruins things any worse with the roster.
First, I would like to say that Marc Bergevin was a welcome change, replacing the awful Pierre Gauthier who thought he answered to no one. Where I think it went wrong for Bergevin was the unexpected playoff run in 2014. It gave him the false sense he had a contender on his hands with Price in net. He never followed through with his stated intentions of 'building through the draft'. Instead, he pulled the trigger on a massive trade to get Shea Weber and then tinkered around the edges with all his bargain basement shopping. He went all in in 2021 with his team in the Covid Canadian division an opportunity to get to the final 4 and he almost pulled it off. Alas, the 2021 Draft miscue, along with losing his two cornerstones did him in. It was time for a reset, let's hope Jeff Gorton can pull it off.
DeleteInteresting times. Seravelli was so smart to get out of that cesspool of Toronto.
ReplyDeleteTalk about a new structure with VP Gorton actually pulling the strings while the new person learns on the job. I love this. What about hiring the first female GM in NHL history? moe had thrown some names out about getting women into management a few months back. How about Danièle Sauvageau? I think she was on his list. And the names being bandied about have no experience, like Luongo or Briere (not sure what he's been up to), so why not a woman? Maybe recent HHOF inductee Kim St Pierre? And the first job of the new GM, man or woman, may be to rescind the first round pick from 2021.
we need a black binary women who once was a child soldier.
DeleteAnother good read;
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What if … this is a creative workaround to pacify a fan base and market that demands a Francophone GM?
ReplyDeleteI've often questioned this 'urban myth' about the Francophone GM. Other than the separatist extremists like Raymond and Tremblay does the average Quebec citizen really give a rat's ass who is making trades or drafting the new kids? The coach I get, he talks to the media pretty much daily. The GM maybe 4 times a year? I can't recall if Pollock was bilingual, he was just smart. I think Serge Savard began the French component of the job (Grundman doesn't count) followed by Houle then Gainey and so on. I would like someone who speaks 'hockey', it's a universal language apparently.
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DeleteYet another good read:
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I feel better about the team in 2025 than I did in 2014.
ReplyDeleteOutlander in tonight. GYFMHG
ReplyDeleteYES!! Ratface fined and starting a three-game suspension for his slewfoot last night. Finally!
ReplyDeleteHabs have come out looking like they want to remind everyone the coach still needs a firin' too!
ReplyDeleteLovely shot, Mr. Petterssen.
ReplyDeleteHabs have as many SOG as Goals against. 1-0 'Nucks.
ReplyDeleteHalfway through the first, Habs manage a 2nd shot.
ReplyDeleteEAP!
ReplyDeleteSee Druid's pass? See what happens when you give EAP some wingers?
DeleteHe has a scoring touch and Drouin has great playmaking ability. In theory a great combo.
DeleteEAP!!
ReplyDeleteBBQ showed up in Montreal today, so I bet Gorton wants his input on things. I coukd see Claude Julien being brought back if his ego allows it. After all, the guy who fired him less than a year ago just got fired himself. And he's still undr contract. Not really GM material though.
ReplyDeletePlease, no more recycled Francophone coaches. Enough of those old fossils. Besides, julien has committed to Hockey Canada for the Spengler Cup.
DeleteAhh but he has an out clause should a NHL job open up for him!
DeleteNot happening and I agree...unless it's Carbonneau...😎
It just seemed nice and tidy I guess. But for me Carbo too.
DeleteI hate Galley so much. Pointing out where Habs should be penalized and going on and on about the refs being right for not calling a penalty on the Canucks.
ReplyDeleteIt was 12-1 shots for Canucks. Then...
ReplyDelete13-12 shots for Habs (a 12-0 run). Now...
26-14 Canucks (a 13-2 run)...
How can they play so differently like this every 10 minutes?
Good news is it should be swinging back to the Habs. Right?!
I'm sorry but this team needs an NHL coach to develop NHL players. I'd forgotten but Dom Ducharme has zero NHL playing experience. Whatever CJv2's issues, I always thought it was good he had a Cup ring (as coach). Kirk too.
ReplyDeleteThat was the kind of tank we need, repeat for 360 games and we will be CHampions.
ReplyDeleteI like the nice touches like continually passing the puck to the point in our own end.
All of Montreal's recent coaches seem to have the same mindset regarding young players. Punish not teach. I think it goes all the way back to Lemaire. Must be a doctrine or something.
ReplyDeleteBut yeah, like Steve said don't win too much just a game here or there. Can't jeopardize that lottery pick. Still, Dom should get the boot, can't coach worth a tinker's darn.
Even though he's 70 years old, there needs to be a place in the organization for Larry Robinson.
ReplyDeleteIn verifying Big Bird's age, I came across an unknown fact to myself, that Larry has a brother Moe. I think somebody's parents were fans of a certain comedy trio...
AND...Moe played 1 NHL game, 6 shifts for #Habs on Dec. 15, 1979 in a 6-2 loss to the Jets
Wow! I would've gone with the Marx bros myself, but settled on select Pixies instead.
DeleteLove the Marx Bros. They were geniuses at their craft. Three stooges were generally a little too dumb, even for me who likes dumb comedy.
DeleteThe Pixies I only heard for the first time a couple of years ago, brilliant
DeleteSo Pat Roy has thrown his hat in the ring. Not sure he checks the "Plays well with others" box that would be required to co-manage with Gorton, but it would be hella interesting to have him in place. He could be GM/Coach for the rest of the year. Do it!
ReplyDeleteSt Pat knows he is not getting the job. What he wants to do is have the interview, and then tell the French press the job is for a puppet and I cut all my strings long ago.
DeleteBe interesting to see if Burke could handle that too.
ReplyDeleteWe are going to get a young Marc Bergiven as GM. No experience but nice biceps. Daniel Biere ding ding ding, Molsen with a Beire ding ding ding
ReplyDeleteIf I can be introspective on this its kind of glass shattering. I never realized just how bad the era was because of the DGMG reality distortion field. He was some kind of genius and give him his due, we can within 3 wins of the Cup. That was DBMB.
ReplyDeleteI think it's going to be Darche. Gorton can continue to train him in GMing while he handles the press. Remember when chokula put Darche on the PP all the time? Used to drive us crazy.
ReplyDeleteSpeaking of the PP why is douche bag refusing to put CC out there? Guess he is in on the tank. Send CC back to Laval so he can score some fucking goals. Gorton can't get here fast enough to dump that turd of a coach.
With all the talent on this team, it takes a special coaCH to manage the tank.
DeleteI have a feeling the first meeting between Gorton and Douche will be a little uncomfortable. Kinda like meeting the guy who will pull the lever on the guillotine...
ReplyDelete(In Ducharme's head)
DeleteGORTON: You must be Dom.
DD: [incoherent mumbling] Jeff! Let me ask you if you've considered me taking on both the GM and Coaching roles?
G: [ERUPTION OF LAUGHTER]
Lots of CHatter about Patrick Roy being considered (mainly by the foaming at the mouth Québec mediots).
ReplyDeleteHe has major credentials but I think he is too volatile a personality. I'd rather a sure and steady rejig.
The best use for his talents would be as Bettman's replacement.
DeleteImagine the annual mclame interview.
Deletemclame would not survive the first one to make it an annual event.
DeleteI haven't read the articles but the JdeM pushed out 4 obscene articles by their xenophobic crew on Monday. These fucks need to either STFU (they won't) or made to STFU.
ReplyDeleteI may yet seek out said articles but the headlines alone were Goebbelish.
DeleteLet me guess, bashing the unilingual (American) anglophone? I wonder what would happen if National Post or G&M published some anti-French rhetoric?
DeleteAnyrhing less than a suitably pure-laine francophone in charge AND making the final hockey decisions would be a sign of the apocalypse for some of these small-minded morons given a platform on our Québec version of FOXNEWS. Péladink media.
DeleteLegault and PKP have a dedicated team toiling night and day to isolate the "de souche" chromosome for racial purity testing. Bill 96 implementation depends on it.
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DeleteAlmost, but less super-powers.
DeleteBilingual, two-time Cup winner and Conn Smythe winner Brad Richards, 41, of impeccably-named Murray Harbour, PEI, who worked under Gorton at NYR, has reportedly landed in Montreal, as has Jeff.
ReplyDeleteAn American from Boston no less and a Maritimer in charge of Les Glorieux? The pure lainers would be walking a picket line at the Bell Center, no?
DeleteNo doubt some buffoons woukd but tha majority wouldn't bat an eye. But Richards is likely not a candidate for GM himself. Still a little green as I understand it.
DeleteMcLame has a real crush on Brad Richards. I don't know what that means if he were to become GM, but it would be awkwardly interesting and yet horrible to watch him juggle his leafiness with the fact his crush is in charge of the Habs.
DeleteAnd if Brad gets the job, he needs to drop the 's' off the end of his name and 'sh' the 'ch' sound and he's gold. Brad Richard (Rishard).
CC to the 4th line. It's official, the douche is worse than julien. Can't wait until JG gets rid of this fucking clown.
ReplyDeleteIt's likewatching a waiter serve the new manager and dump hot soup all over him, light the table on fire and poisin the chef.
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